Kant’s Critique of Judgement: Lecture 2

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So today, we're going to continue with the critique of judgement,

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and in particular we're going to look at cance solution or explanation of the puzzle or the problematic feature of judgements of taste.

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That was identified last week in The Analytic of the Beautiful.

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So remember, the strategy is that in the analytic certain features, the judgements of taste have are identified and least supposedly in the deduction.

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An explanation of how it's possible for them to have those apparently problematic features is given.

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As I say, it's just supposedly in this because material relevant to both of these projects is

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scattered throughout the critique in both sections entitled The Analytic and the Deduction.

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So the big problem or problematic feature of judgements of taste is what Kant describes as their subjective universality,

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or as he sometimes puts it, that subjective universalist validity,

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their subjective in his sense, in that they're not based on concepts and the perception of a property in the object,

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but rather they're based on some fact about the judge. Some feature of the judge.

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And in the case of judgements of taste, it's based on pleasure. And the points very much emphasised last week was that it's based only on pleasure.

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The pleasure itself is not based on concepts. The judgement is not based on concepts.

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Judgement is based only on the pleasure. And the pleasure is a pleasure.

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Connected with an intuition of the object, which, remember in his vocabulary, is a sense perception of the object,

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which is a representation of a particular rather than a general representation, which is what a concept would be.

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So judgements of taste are subjective in this sense, and they also have this feature of universality.

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And what that amounts to is that when you make a judgement of taste, you believe that everyone else ought to agree with you.

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Universal in the sense of everyone ought to agree.

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And as we discussed at the end last time, he get he appears to give at least two reasons why judgements of taste have this feature.

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The first is that they're based on disinterested pleasure. And so it seems to you as if your pleasure in it doesn't result from some desire

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for the existence or non-existence of the object that might be unique to you.

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And second is this point that we argue over whether things are beautiful.

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So, as he puts it, we blame others who we just have bad taste.

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That implies that we think they ought to agree that everybody ought to agree.

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Now, as Kant clarifies in this first quotation on the handout, he says,

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the assertion is not that everyone will fall in with our judgement, but rather that everyone ought to agree with it.

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Here I put forward my judgement of taste as an example of the judgement of common sense and a tribute to it on that account, exemplary validity.

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So that's important. It's not a prediction that everybody who looks at the object will agree with you.

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It's a claim that everybody ought to. And in fact, we persist in claiming this, Kant notes, even when we see that other people don't agree.

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That's the hope. That's what makes argument possible. We think everybody ought to agree, even though we see they don't.

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He thinks this is an interesting contrast of judgements of the agreeable in which even when we see everybody agrees that something's agreeable,

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we don't require that everybody ought to agree.

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So that he puts it in that somewhat paradoxical seeming way to bring to highlight this feature the judgements of taste.

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At one point we didn't mention last week is that Kant thinks this explains this feature of universality,

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explains why we talk as though beauty is a property of objects, even though it's not.

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So the word beautiful is an adjective, which at least normally is grammatically an adjective,

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which at least normally is used to attribute properties to objects in various ways.

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We speak as if beauty is the property of the object, and he thinks the reason for this is this feature of thinking.

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Everybody ought to agree because this is going to be very important as we go along.

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When you judge that something has a property, you also think everybody ought to agree.

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So if you're looking at an object and you judge that it is square, you also think everybody ought to agree.

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Everybody sees the object. That is odd to agree that the object is square.

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So cognitive judgements and not just judgements of taste or whether sometimes self logical

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judgements also have this feature of expecting or believing everybody ought to agree.

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And that he thinks it's that analogy in virtue of which we talk about beauty as if it's a property of objects,

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that what that's what makes that way of speaking appropriate,

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because there's that similarity between judgements of taste and judgements attributing a property to the object.

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Now, as an interesting aside here, Kant uses this also to defend a kind of formalism about beauty.

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So he thinks it follows from this that colours and tones can't be beautiful.

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They can only be agreeable. And he has a kind of a funny reason for this.

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He thinks it's because we can't be sure that everybody sees the same colours as we do.

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The colours look the same way to everybody. So this is a very venerable philosophical question.

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How do I know that when I see red, I have the same experience as you do when you see Red Cat?

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Thanks. We can't be sure that we do have that same experience.

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And so if the redness gives me pleasure, I can't expect you to agree because I can't be sure that you're having the same experience of redness.

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So it's a funny worry to kind of insist on as a reason why you're not justified in judging colours to be beautiful.

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You can find them agreeable. That's no problem because you're not claiming with judgements to be agreeable that everyone ought to agree.

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And he also says that the purity of a colour can be beautiful.

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That's OK, because that's a formal feature of the colour.

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It's not the quality of redness, but the undifferentiated nature of the redness or the purity of the redness.

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And he thinks all colours, insofar as they're pure, are beautiful.

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But it's not in virtue of the qualitative character of the colour, but rather in virtue of the purity.

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OK. So universality, very important and very puzzling because it seems difficult to explain how you could be

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justified going nearly on your own pleasure in believing that everybody ought to agree.

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So, for example, you can't be justified by having perceived beauty in the object.

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It's not like the judgement that a thing is square. It's not on that basis that you are justified in believing.

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Everybody ought to agree because beauty is not a property of the object and you can't be justified in believing.

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Everybody ought to agree by having a proof that the thing is beautiful.

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Obviously that would would do that would justify you in believing everybody ought to agree.

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But as we saw last week, judgements of taste not based on concepts.

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And it follows from that, that you can't get a proof showing that something's beautiful.

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So that way of justifying the expectation of agreement is not available.

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And moreover, you don't make this claim based on evidence that the objects can please everyone.

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Empirical evidence, I should say. That's an important qualification.

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It's not as a result of checking doing a survey to see if the object pleases everyone.

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It's not on that basis that you make this claim that everyone ought to agree.

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And once again, we mentioned this last week that one reason why that's so.

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Is that that would also base your judgement on concepts, the concepts of being liked by others as one reason.

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So cance very typical of his approach to a lot of problems.

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Points out a number of features that seem to suggest that some phenomenon or some kind of judgement, some form of knowledge is not possible.

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And then he goes on to try and explain how, in fact, it is possible, despite these apparent obstacles to its possibility.

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And I think you can understand what he goes on to do as being based on an attempt to show that we are justified,

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though not empirically, in believing that everyone can take pleasure in an object that we judged to be beautiful.

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So remember, I said that the problematic feature was that we believe everybody ought to agree with our judgement.

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Well, connected with that is the belief that everybody can take pleasure in the object.

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It's a well-known principle of cance mainly in his moral philosophy that if you ought to do something, then you're capable of doing it.

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So this is the principle sometimes summarised as ought implies can.

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So if you ought to agree with our judgement of taste, then we are committed to the claim that you're capable of great.

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Of agreeing with that judgement of taste.

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And if you are capable of agreeing with the judgement of taste, since judgements of taste are based on pleasure,

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we're also committed to the view that you are capable of taking pleasure in the object that we are taking pleasure in.

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And what he goes on to argue, in effect. Or when he goes on to explain,

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is how it's possible to be justified in believing that everybody else is capable of taking pleasure in the object that we are taking pleasure in.

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But once again, as I mentioned, if we're justified in believing everybody's capable of taking pleasure in the object,

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that can't be based on experience. We have to be to use the term I mentioned last week a priori,

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I justified in believing that everyone is capable of taking pleasure in the object that pleases us a priori justified.

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Remember, just means justified, but not based on experience.

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And I think the reason for this is to go back again to something I mentioned last week, that this is a claim about what is always the case.

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So, again, everyone can take pleasure in the object without exception.

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The claim is not just so far as we've seen, everyone can take pleasure in the object.

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It's a claim that everyone, without exception, can. And one of the marks of a priori judgements, right.

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Prior knowledge is that they are in this sense about what is always the case.

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Without exception, they have to be a priori justified if they're justified at all.

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Because experience only tells you can't tell you what is the case without exception, because it is limited.

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So if we're justified at all in believing that everybody, without exception,

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can take pleasure in the object, we've got to be a priori justified in believing that.

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And since he likes to assimilate various different concepts,

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he also thinks you can argue this on the grounds that there's an element of necessity to our judgement.

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The necessity comes in and the claim that everyone ought to agree.

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This is again typical of Kant of using the very same word as applies to mathematical necessity.

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So the claim the two plus two must must equal four to the notion of an obligation or a duty.

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He does this in his ethics as well, where it compares moral laws to laws of nature.

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Typical of him. But he thinks that the key point here for this is that because necessity is involved in the sense of we ought to agree.

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Experience can't justify that belief that everybody ought to agree,

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because experience only tells us about what is the case, not about what must be the case.

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But here, the must, as I say, is a moral must.

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Well, not the case of agreement, but it's certainly not a natural or mathematical must.

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OK, so I've summarised this at the bottom there by saying Point D.

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We can be justified in believing everyone ought to agree with our judgement of taste.

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If and only if we can be a priori justified in believing everyone can take pleasure in the object.

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So the question is going to be, how can we be a priori justified in believing everyone can take pleasure in the object?

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And this is in quotation number three, the way Kant puts it. It's from Section 36 of the critique of judgement.

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How is the judgement possible, which going nearly upon the individual's own feeling of pleasure and an object independent of the concept of it.

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Judges this as a pleasure attached to the representation of the same object in every other individual.

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And so a priori, i.e. without being allowed to wait and see if other people will be of the same mind.

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This is the principle question that the critique of judgement is going to try and answer.

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OK, so his answer is incredibly obscure.

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And a lot of people have a great deal of difficulty making sense of what he says.

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I'm going to present one reading. I don't know if it's right.

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And it's worth taking a look at that of the secondary literature on this to get a sense of.

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Well, A, the difficulty that even the very best cat scholars have in figuring out what he means, but B,

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also the diversity of interpretations offered major work on Kentz Theory of Taste is by Paul Guire, called Kant and the claims of Taste.

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Another major work is by Henry Allicin called Cance Theory of Taste.

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Gaia has also written an interesting paper on this topic, which surveys a lot of the literature on it called Harmony of the Faculties Revisited.

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And that's in a book of his essays called Values of Beauty.

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But basically, Kant's answer is that we can be a priori justified in thinking that everyone else can agree

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with us or rather a priori justified and thing everyone else can take pleasure in the object.

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If and only if we can be justified in believing that our own pleasure arises

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from what he calls the harmonious freeplay of imagination and understanding.

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That's the bottom line. That's the answer. That's the explanation of how it's possible to be a priori justified,

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based only on your own pleasure in believing that everybody else can take pleasure in the object.

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Only if you can be justified in thinking that your own pleasure comes from the harmony of the faculties,

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the harmonious freeplay of imagination and understanding.

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So how does he get there?

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Well, one step seems to be that we can only be have this apro or justified belief that everybody else can take pleasure in the object.

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If we can be justified in believing that our own pleasure arises from some mental state mental condition,

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mental activity, which we can know a priori, Ibe, that everyone else can be in when they perceive what we perceive.

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That's the claim about the source of our pleasure.

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We can just be justified in believing that our pleasure arises from some source, some mental condition,

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which we can also know a priori I everybody else can be in when they're perceiving the object.

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Then we can be justified in thinking they will get pleasure to. Our pleasure comes from that source.

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They all share that source, that mental condition. Therefore, we can be justified in thinking that they can take pleasure as well.

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It seems clear enough. That's one step along the way.

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And this also recalled some remarks he made about its disinterest in this last

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week regarding our belief that the source of our pleasure can't be unique to us.

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The next step is the claim that the only mental condition or kind of mental condition,

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which we can know a priori that everyone else can be in when they perceive the thing,

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we perceive our mental conditions that enable us to apply concepts to what we perceive.

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So two kinds of mental states activities, conditions that enable us to make cognitive judgements.

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Those are the only ones we can know a priori. Everyone else can be in when they perceive what we perceive.

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And that also seems to be a claim along the way.

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And so, again, like I mentioned before, when we do apply a concept to what we perceive, we believe everybody else ought to agree with our judgement.

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But moreover, I provided our judgements justified at least.

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We're also a priori justified in believing everyone else can be in the same

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mental condition that enabled us to apply that concepts to what we perceive.

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So there's a parallel here in two respects between cognitive judgements and what's true of judgements of taste.

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We expect everybody to agree. We think everybody ought to agree with our judgement when it's a cognitive judgement.

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And we can also be a priori justified in believing that everybody can be in the

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same mental condition that enabled us to apply the concept to what we perceive.

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This is the case of cognitive judgements. The additional step is that these are the only mental conditions that we can be a priori justified

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in knowing everybody else can be in when they proceed with the things that we perceive.

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And once you have that step, it follows that it's got to be the case, that our pleasure comes in,

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beauty comes from some mental state activity condition that enables us to apply concepts to what we perceive as in a cognitive judgement.

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I mean, that is a cognitive judgement to apply concepts to what you perceive.

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Now, Kent has a theory also very obscure in its own right about what these mental conditions are that he presents in the critique of pure reason.

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The first of his three critiques. And just going to go through this a bit.

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So in order for us to apply concepts to what we perceive there, to faculty's that for our purposes that are very important.

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First is what he calls the imagination. He seems to mean something rather similar to what we mean by imagination, but also rather different.

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So he defines the imagination as the faculty of representing an intuition that which is not itself present.

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And remembering what he means by intuition is not so different from what we might mean.

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But it's also very important for Kant that the imagination has an absolutely fundamental central role in sense experience.

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In particular, in order for us to apply concepts to what we perceive in a sense,

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experience, the imagination, as he puts it, has to combine or synthesise intuitions.

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That's a key point. Imagination combines different perceptual representations in order.

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And that's one of the things that is one of the things that makes possible to apply concepts to what we perceive.

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So take a look at quotation for on the handout.

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This is from the critique of Pure Reason, where he's describing an activity that he calls the synthesis of reproduction in imagination.

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And he thinks this is necessary in order for us to be able to apply concepts to what we perceive.

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So he says experience as such necessarily presupposes the reproducibility of appearances.

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When I seek to draw a line in thought or to think of the time from one noon to another, or even to represents to myself some particular number,

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obviously the various manifold representations that are involved must be apprehended by me in thought.

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One after the other.

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But if I was always to drop out of thought, the preceding representations, the first parts of the line, the antecedent parts of the time period,

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or the units in the order represented and did not reproduce them while advancing

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to those that follow a complete representation would never be obtained.

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Now that's actually reasonably clear. I think what he's talking about,

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if in your mind you're drawing a line you can't forget about or delete the first parts of the line as you're going on to the next parts.

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You've got to keep them there or as in his vocabulary, reproduce them a moment later when you're drawing the later parts of the line.

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Otherwise, you won't be able to represent the whole line.

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Imagination has to keep in this picture of things reproducing the earlier parts of the line that you drew in order to complete it,

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in order to represent a whole line. It's in this sense,

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this is one of the ways an example of one of the ways in which imagination has to combine representations to the

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representations of the earlier parts of the line that you drew with representations of the later parts of the line.

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Imagination combines these in part by reproducing the earlier ones.

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And that's how you get a representation in your mind of one line.

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Now, this is an example of drawing something in your head, but he thinks this also happens in sense perception.

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You have to remember what you're looking at and that it's the same thing as what you saw before across time as well.

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OK. So that's part of what goes on in our experience.

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In order for us to be able to apply concepts to what we perceive now, this is by no means.

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The suggestion is by no means that this is a conscious thing we're doing all the time.

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This is something the mind just naturally does when it receives sensory input.

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It combines these things.

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The imagination combines the different bits of the input that he puts in the manifold of intuition that we're getting combined.

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Certain parts in certain ways. This is one example.

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Next thing that happens in ordinary judgements, according to the first edition of a particular reason,

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is what he calls the synthesis of recognition in a concept.

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So he goes on to say, if we were not conscious that what we think is the same as what we thought a moment before,

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all reproduction in the series of representations would be useless.

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So that synthesis of reproduction mentioned earlier for it would in its present state be a new representation,

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which would not in any way belong to the act whereby it was to be gradually generated.

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The manifold of the representation would never therefore form a hole. And he gives an example.

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If in counting I forget that the units which now hover before me have been added to one another in succession.

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I should never know that its total is being produced through this successive edition of units to unit.

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And so I would remain ignorant of the number for the concept of the number is nothing but the consciousness of this unity of synthesis.

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So the thought is it's fine for the imagination to combine together various representations,

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but you've got to know what unites them before in order to apply concepts to what you're looking at.

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Indeed, that's what it is to apply concept to. What you're looking at is to group together the say, the five units as five.

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What unites them is that they are a group of five. The thought seems to be into the consciousness of what unites them.

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That is what the understanding enables you to do by supplying you with a concept that represents what unites them.

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That's the thought in the first Katik. That's what goes on normally in order to be able to apply a concept to what you're perceiving.

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Imagination combines different representations.

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The understanding supplies a concept that represents the unity that those combined representations possess.

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Now, complexity here. One of many is that the imagination and the understanding are working very closely together.

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because the imagination is guided by a concept of the understanding.

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So it's not as though, although reading out these examples like that might suggested,

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the combination happens first and then you just notice, oh, that's what it has in common.

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The imagination is guided by concepts in order to make the combinations that it makes.

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So this is just an analysis of what's going on. Not a sort of temporal.

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Series of stages. OK, this needs to happen in order for experience to be possible.

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Kat says, certainly needs to happen in order for us to be able to apply a concept to what we perceive.

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So it's going to be some mental condition like that that our pleasure comes from the beauty.

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But of course, and this is point D under number two,

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it can't actually be a matter of applying a concept to what we perceive because our pleasure is not based on concepts very important for him.

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So it's got to be something like I just described.

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But delete the bit where you apply the concept to it.

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The implication seems to be that it's just the imagination, combining particulars, grouping stuff together,

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but without then applying a concept that represents what those things grouped together have in common.

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Now, that, as I say, is a bit obscure, but.

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Paul Guya, who I mentioned, thinks he's found a passage where I can't actually gives an example of this happening.

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Can't hardly ever gives examples to illustrate any of the things he says.

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So if this is right, that would be very helpful. And this is the fifth passage on your handout, and it's from Section 53 of the critique of judgement.

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So remember, I said, see, the implication seems to be that we get pleasure from the imagination combining perceptual representations together.

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Well, in this passage, Cantor's talking about music and our experience of melody and harmony.

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And he says, although this mathematical form.

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So the mathematical,

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mathematically describable relationships between tones arranged in harmonies and melodies is not represented by means of determinate concepts.

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As we listen to music to it alone belongs the delight which the mere reflection upon such a number of concomitant or consecutive sensations.

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Couples with this their play as the universally valid condition of its beauty.

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And it is wet with reference to it alone that tastes can lay claim to a right to anticipate the judgement of every human being.

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But mathematics certainly plays not the slightest part in the charm and movement of the mind produced by music.

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Rather, is it only the indispensable condition of that proportion of the combining as well as changing impressions,

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which makes it possible to grasp them all in one.

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And to let them conspire towards the production of a continuous movement and quickening of the mind by affections that are in unison with it.

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The basic thought there seems to be that in just the way that when you're listening to a melody, you group certain certain notes together.

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That is the sort of thing that's happening whenever we perceive beauty.

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The thought seems to be it's that kind of grouping, but without a concept representing what unites them from which our pleasure in beauty arises,

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that the fact that there's no concept representing what these combined representations have in common is what counts,

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trying to show by talking about mathematics here.

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they do stand in certain relations to one another. That can be described.

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as you're listening to the music, or if you are, at least that's not where the pleasure comes from.

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Your imagination is grouping them together independently of the concepts that could be applied to it to represent the unity they have.

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That seems to be supported by his general model of what goes on when you perceive stuff is that you group things together,

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intuitions together with the imagination. And when you perceive something as beautiful, you do that, too.

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But you don't apply a concept or at the very least, you don't get pleasure from having a plot, a concept to the intuitions you group together.

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As I say, whether this is what Kant means is kind of anyone's guess, but this seems to be as reasonable a reconstruction as many others.

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This, it seems to be, is what the harmonious freeplay of imagination and understanding amounts to.

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It's play in the first place because you're not using imagination and just understanding to acquire knowledge, as you would if you had a a concept.

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So their cognitive faculties, faculties, whose function is to get your knowledge, but you're not using them for that purpose.

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You're using them in a kind of play. That's why he describes it as play seems clear enough.

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It's free play because the just the imagination is combining various representations but is not guided by concepts.

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In so doing so, it's free of concepts.

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It's combining these together not because some concept of an object is guiding it to combine them in the way it does.

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But it's doing so independently of that. Furthermore, why is it a harmony between imagination and sanding?

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take on this is that it's a harmony because the imagination here satisfies the understanding's usual demand for some combined representations.

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Even though the understanding doesn't apply a concept, and it's in that sense that they're in harmony.

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So that's what the Bahaman harmonious freeplay of imagination and understanding is.

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And we can know that this is a state of mind that anybody can be in when faced with an object, which we can.

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The thought seems to be because this is a state of mind that is required in order to apply concepts to the thing.

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These are acts of the mind that are required in order to apply a concept to the thing.

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Or at least they're of the same kind as those acts, then we can be confident that everybody else can take pleasure in the object.

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We're justified thinking. Our pleasure comes from harmonious Freeplay, a priori justified thinking.

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Everybody else can be in a state of harmonious Freeplay when they perceive the object.

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Therefore, aper are justified in believing that everybody else can take pleasure from the object.

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That's how justified judgements of taste are possible. Or rather, how it's possible to be justified in believing everybody ought to agree.

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Or maybe not because it's so obscure. But that's one possible way of going.

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Now, a number of points here that might arise often in Canada.

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At least my experience of reading Kant. It's not always clear whether when he is trying to explain how something's possible,

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if his goal is to establish that it is possible or if he's assuming it's possible.

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And just explaining how so we know it's possible is one reading a lot of the time.

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And he's just trying to explain how.

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So when he asks how is synthetic a priori knowledge possible, for example, how is mathematical knowledge possible?

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He clearly thinks it is possible. And the goal is just to explain how it's not to establish that it is possible.

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Maybe when you get that explanation, you also get considerations that establish that it is possible here to we might ask that same question.

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Is he assuming that it is possible to be justified in believing everybody ought to agree?

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And he's just trying to explain how that's possible.

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Or is he trying to establish as well that it is possible to be justified in believing everybody ought to agree with your judgement of taste.

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That's often something that's rather obscure here.

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I think at the very least, we can say he's trying to explain how it's possible.

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Second issue that arises from this is so I mentioned that provided you can be justified

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in knowing that your pleasure comes from the harmonious Freeplay of your faculties,

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then your expectation of agreement is justified.

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The question arises, how can you be justified in believing that your pleasure comes from that source on any given occasion?

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Well, Kant is quite open about the fact that you can't be certain in any given occasion that your pleasure does come from harmonious Freeplay.

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And in fact, this is similar to claims he makes in his moral philosophy about how we can never

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really be certain that we're acting from duty as opposed to from inclination.

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There, he says, there might always be some secret, unacknowledged interest or inclination that is really motivating us.

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And it's not our duty. And a similar thought may perhaps be motivating him here that unbeknown to us,

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we may still be motivated by interest or our pleasure may still arise from interest rather than from the harmonious Freeplay.

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So now saying you can't be certain is now is different from saying you can never be justified in thinking that it comes from the harmonious Freeplay,

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you can consider whether there are any interests that you might have and the existence of the object, of course.

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even if it's not certainty for thinking that your pleasure comes from harmonious Freeplay.

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in a total state of ignorance about whether our pleasure comes from harmonious Freeplay.

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But he does acknowledge that we can't be certain about the sources of our pleasure.

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OK, so that is the deduction.

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I like to finish by discussing what he says about judgements of the sublime.

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So in the 18th century, in addition to the beautiful, the sublime was a very important category of aesthetic property or aesthetic experience.

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So it sort of signified a kind of disturbing feeling or rapturous terror of the kind that you get when you enjoy the sight of storms at sea,

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ruined castles, volcanoes, waterfalls, hurricanes, all that stuff that the romantics would really enjoy.

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A lot of theories about it in the 18th century.

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And Burke, Edmund Burke, who's best known as author of Reflections on the Revolution in France and and as a sort

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of intellectual ancestor to political conservatives of certain stripe these days,

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early in his career wrote work on aesthetics about the beautiful and the sublime, which can't read.

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And Burke's basic thought was that we call something sublime if it causes a feeling of delight because it seems painful and dangerous,

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but it's perceived from a safe, safe distance. And he is going to have his own take on this category of aesthetic experience.

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So he thinks there's a number of similarities between judgements of taste, judgement of the sublime, which I'll just go through quickly to begin.

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So they're both based on pleasure, not based on concepts either.

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And they're or they're based on pleasure, connected with the intuition of the object.

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And not, as I say, based on concepts. Judgements of the sublime are also singular judgements.

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And he thinks they also possess that key feature of universality. We think everyone ought to agree.

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But lastly, most importantly for his discussion,

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he thinks pleasure in the sublime arises from a kind of accord between imagination and a certain faculty of concepts, but not the understanding.

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It's a faculty he calls reason and reason in his vocabulary has a certain set of concepts proper to it, which he calls ideas or rational ideas.

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And these are concepts of things that it would not be possible to have an intuition.

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So the concept of God is an idea, concept of freedom, concept of immortality, concept of infinity.

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All of these are ideas, special concepts associated with this other faculty of reason,

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not the faculty of understanding that makes helps make experience possible, could never have intuitions of these things.

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But we have concepts of them and they play some of them a certain role in various parts of our thinking.

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According to Kant, so moral action is only possible on the assumption that we're free to use one of the most important examples for him.

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But of course, we have no empirical evidence of our freedom because in the world of experience, everything is governed by causal necessity.

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So it's an idea in that sense. So these ideas are going to be important to his explanation of his talk of the sublime two kinds of the sublime.

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He talks about versus the mathematically sublime. And these are things that, as he puts it, are absolutely great.

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So great without qualification, those things in comparison with which everything else is little.

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And then he makes a rather surprising move.

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He says nothing we ever see is, strictly speaking, sublime, because everything we can possibly imagine or experience,

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we can also imagine being small in comparison with something else regarded in some other relation.

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However, sometimes inexperience, we perceive something that our imagination cannot hold in its entirety.

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you've got to hold the earlier parts in order as you proceed to the later parts of the line in order to represent the whole thing.

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Sometimes we can't do that with our imagination when we perceive something.

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Some things are just so big. You forget about the earlier parts you looked at as you're surveying the whole thing.

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That seems to be the thought. And it gives an interesting example of a travel writer who describes the pyramids and he

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thinks this is the reason this guy suggests that you stand neither too close to the pyramids,

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not too far away to appreciate them close enough so that as you survey them, you can't hold the whole thing in your mind.

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So you're near enough to it that it's just so vast that you can't get a representation of the whole thing by surveying it in your mind.

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That seems to be the basic thought. Now, these things are not, of course, absolutely great, as he puts it.

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But what they do is bring to our minds the idea of infinity, of what is, properly speaking, sublime.

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And the fact that we can think of it, think of infinity indicates to us that we have a faculty in us that is not limited to sensation.

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As he puts it, a faculty of mine transcending every standard of sense, namely reason, and that gives us pleasure.

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But we can only get that pleasure through a kind of displeasure at our imaginations, inability to contain the whole thing.

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Similar strategy goes with the dynamically sublime, which I'll just go through quickly,

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dynamically sublime is nature seen as something mighty and fearful, but which has no dominion over us and which we are therefore not afraid of.

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So once again, similar to Burke, we see nature as dynamically sublime when we see something extremely powerful from a position of safety.

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And this cat thinks brings to our mind the thought of our ability to overcome nature.

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Where do we have the ability to overcome nature? Well, in moral action, we can overcome our inclinations.

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And he doesn't. I don't think say this explicitly, but it seems to be invited.

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Is the thought that we can overcome the order of causal necessity because we have freedom or at least we must presuppose freedom.

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can't hurt us brings to mind this fact about us or this idea within us of moral agency,

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of overcoming nature within us and nature outside.

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And that, he says, is pleasurable, even though what we're looking at, it's fearful that thought of our moral vocation.

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And he puts it is a pleasurable experience. And that's why with the sublime, you have this combination of displeasure and pleasure and why,

389
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properly speaking, only the human mind is sublime, not nature.

390
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And it's because of this moral element that we can expect everybody to agree with judgements of the sublime.

391
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And that's because we can expect on moral grounds everybody to be capable of feeling for the sublime,

392
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because we can expect them to be capable of moral feeling.

393
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Thanks so much.

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